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    The Aliens Are Innocent!

    The Trial and Conviction of a "EBE Possessed" Serial Killer

    By W.H. Bowart

    (c) 1995 International Artists Trust of Erin

    Plan Ten From Outer Space was playing at The Screening Room on
    East Congress, just up the street from the courthouse. The card
    in the window said, "Just because it's made up, doesn't mean it
    isn't true..." The film, which ran on weekends until October
    29th, was described variously as being "Rocky Horror meets the
    Mormons," and "Irreverent," and "Nancy Drew on acid." Below that
    the card read, "A twisted tale about Mormons, sex and aliens..."

    Change Mormons to Baptists ( Moody was a Baptist), change the acid
    to cocaine, and you have a fair description of the murder trial
    that played from October 10th to the 26th down the street at the
    Superior Court in Tucson, Arizona. I kept walking past the
    theater, in the settling exhaust of the O.J. Simpson trial, for
    three weeks on my way to cover the trial of Robert Moody, an
    "alien possessed" serial killer.

    Robert Joe Moody had allegedly killed two women -- Michelle
    Malone, 36, the first victim who was enjoying a regular threesome
    with Moody and his girlfriend Dora Lee. ( The evidence of this
    sexual adventurism was lightly passed over in the trial
    testimony.) The second victim was his next door neighbor, Pat
    Magda, 56, a financial expert and widow of an Air Force officer.

    In the trial there was no reference to  Moody's apparent
    life-long affliction from trauma-based programming  --  no
    testimony to conditions which typically would indicate what used
    to be called Multiple Personality Disorder, but is now called
    Dissociative Identity Disorder. This is not to look for an excuse
    for Moody from two counts of first degree murder because he may
    have suffered from traumas in his childhood. But, what we
    probably have here is an individual with a mental disorder which
    could explain his actions. Any evidence of this kind, however,
    was excluded from the trial. Anyway, the accused didn't have a
    chance for a fair trial from the beginning if he was suffering
    from a dissociative disorder that was trauma based.

    From the testimony of the four shrinks, only one, Dr. Joseph
    Geffen appeared to have a good grasp of the new diagnosis. It was
    hard to believe that three of the four doctors who evaluated
    Moody lived in the same city as the late great psychiatrist
    Milton H. Erickson, a pioneer in the treatment of the highly
    complex and often overlooked mental disorder. Asked by the court
    only to determine if Moody was competent to stand trial, the
    first shrink to testify, Chief of Forensic Psychiatry for the
    Superior Court, Dr. Jack Potts, determined that, at first, Moody
    was neither competent, nor sane, but that he suffered from a
    "personality disorder."

    This diagnosis displeased Robert Moody, and he fought hard
    against any insanity defense, firing his attorney and taking over
    the case himself.

    ACCESS TV UFOAZ talkshow host, Ted Loman interviewed Moody in his
    cell shortly after his arrest. I asked to see the tapes of those
    interviews. The first thing Loman said to Moody was "you killed
    two women, and I think you ought to get the death penalty." It
    was not exactly a rapport building moment. But then, Moody agreed
    with Loman, saying that was exactly what his "mission" was -- to
    get the lethal injection, be killed by the state so "Extrasensory
    Biological Entities" could resurrect him. From a laymen's
    perspective, this is a very crazy statement for anyone to make,
    guilty or innocent of any kind of crime. That should have been a
    red flag for all of those who were involved in representing,
    diagnosing or treating this individual accused of murder. This
    was not a statement made by a sane person. At least it showed a
    suicidal intent.

    After I watched hours of these tapes I asked Ted to take me along
    on his next interview with the defendant. As I sat face-to-face
    with a medicated Moody and heard him tell me Dr. Potts had said
    he had a "personality disorder" I asked him if it was a "multiple
    personality disorder." He said emphatically no, it was a
    "narcissistic personality disorder."

    My interest was piqued further when I learned from Moody that he
    had been seriously abused as a child. I was curious about whether
    or not he had been further traumatized, and accessed during his
    service years with the U.S. Marine Corps. His disclosure that he
    experienced "missing time" when he trained with Navy Seal Teams
    and that he had been given a Top Secret clearance, made me even
    more interested in his case. Missing time is a hallmark for both
    Dissociative Identity Disorder patients and those alleging Alien
    Abduction. I'd interviewed hundreds of DID men and women who had
    been used as drug mules, sex slaves, human tape recorders,
    assassins and other "compartmented personality roles" in
    intelligence activities. I came away wondering if Moody could be
    suffering from Dissociated Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified
    (DDNOS). This diagnosis is often used on individuals who have a
    traceable history with the U.S. Government in conjunction with a
    history of early childhood abuse & trauma.

    I asked a friend, Dr. G.L. Dean, a brilliant clinician who
    developed one of the first Dissociative Disorders hospital
    programs in California, to come along with Loman and I on a visit
    to the jail. Further qualifying her, Dr. Dean had presented two
    papers at the Alien Abduction Conference held at MIT in 1993 as
    one of her interests is in the relationship between dissociative
    disorders and alleged ALIEN abduction phenomenon. This interview
    was done at my request as Dr. Dean and I were collaborating on a
    book about the Politics of the DID Diagnosis. During this
    interview Moody switched into several different states, including
    a child and an internally restrained part which he referred to as
    Joe. Altogether there was Bob and Robert and Joey and Bobby. When
    Joe manifested, the room filled with heat.

    Two hours later, as we walked across the jail parking lot Dr.
    Dean reflected on the case: "What is one supposed to do if he is
    found to be suffering from DID?" she asked. "Reintegrate him so
    that he can feel, just like the rest of us, and then they will
    give him the lethal injection?" Dr. Dean and I talked about the
    possibility that there could be a number of other personalities
    which had not yet revealed themselves.

    For weeks after, we tried to get Moody's defense team to act on
    the information we were uncovering, information that raised our
    suspicion that Moody should be evaluated for DID. Dr. Dean gave
    several referral names of experts in the field for ruling out the
    possibility that he may be suffering from DID. I passed that
    information on to Robert Moody, Ray Morgan, the defense
    investigator, and Dan Grills his attorney. Nobody listened. For
    the twenty odd years I'd been dealing with these stories, one of
    Marshall McLuhan's axioms kept coming to mind: "Only the small
    secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by
    public incredulity."

    Moody had consistently maintained, the testimony showed, since
    before his crimes and before his arrest,that he had been
    contacted by these "Extrasensory Biological Entities. (EBE's)"
    But Ted Loman, who'd been researching UFO's for years, and
    believed in the reality of extraterrestrial visitors, said he'd
    never heard this term before. Usually they were called
    "Extraterrestrial Biological Entities."

    It was apparent that one Moody  would like to see the other
    Moodys dead -- something not uncommon for those with DID. He said
    his "mission" was to get sentenced to death by lethal injection.
    He had no fear of death, he said, because the EBE's had promised
    him that, after the doctors would pronounce him dead, they would
    bring him back to life like a modern Lazarus.

    Dan Grills, Moody's first court- appointed defense attorney had
    become frustrated with Moody because he would not remember things
    they had discussed, was changing from one state to another, and
    it became almost impossible for Grills to understand his client,
    even though Moody was found competent to stand trial. Moody's
    case could be compared in history with Hitler's when he was
    considered competent by some but insane by others. Our legal
    system gives basic guidelines for competency. They address simply
    the question of the defendant's ability to understand the
    criminal charges and to assist his attorney in his defense. In
    Moody's case he would not help his attorney, and, now that we've
    seen the trial, did little to present his own defense, rather
    working toward his "mission" of getting the death penalty and
    being resurrected. In hindsight, Dan Grills was right. Moody was
    incompetent to stand trial.

    Perhaps, given the problems associated with individuals
    representing themselves, a more careful evaluation of competency
    should be considered as our society and the individuals in it
    becomes more complex. Grills wanted to present an insanity
    defense and Moody would have nothing of it. Moody repeatedly
    complained  about Grills' representation, shouted disparaging
    comments in the courtroom and haggled with the judge, claiming
    his right to represent himself. Finally Judge Howard Hantman let
    him.

    When, after Grills was no longer working for Moody, I finally got
    the point across to him that Moody should be evaluated properly
    for DID he said, "God, now I feel bad. I just hated that bastard
    so much. He kept breaking his word, not remembering promises he'd
    made or things he'd agreed to. A multiple personality disorder
    explains everything. That's got to be it. He's crazy!" And that
    is what he eventually said on the witness stand: "He's crazy!"
    "In practice our courts are using psychiatry in competency
    hearings more out of convenience than from any consideration of
    Justice. In case after case fundamental rights are denied by
    maneuvers for competency rulings," writes Dr. Lee Coleman in The
    Reign of Error, Psychiatry, Authority and Law.

    Judge Hantman found Moody competent to stand trial too easily. He
    based his decision on the testimony of "experts" who were not
    expert in the difficult process of diagnosing an adult male
    suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder. A court appointed
    psychiatric expert is anybody who is licensed to practice
    medicine as a Psychiatrist and approved by the court. Having a
    regular shrink try to diagnose a DID is tantamount to having a
    foot doctor evaluating a person for brain surgery. Later one of
    those same "experts" would take the stand to say that Moody could
    not have DID, offering the wrong explanation of it before the
    jury.

    Moody's trial could have turned out to be the story of the
    millennium. Not this millennium, the next one. It was the kind of
    story that Rolling Stone would have sent my former neighbor,
    Hunter Thompson, out to cover if they'd known about it. It was a
    true crime story of not just drugs and rock and roll, but a
    delusional individual who claimed to have killed two women, was
    involved in kinky sex, huge quantities of drugs, trained with the
    Navy Seals, and wanted to be crucified by society so that he
    could be resurrected by entities not known to this world, yet
    still wanted to be found competent to stand trial and represent
    himself.

    Just as we have experienced technological lag -- as soon as we
    buy a new computer or camcorder it's made obsolete by a far more
    advanced innovation -- we've experienced the law's great lag
    behind science. In this information age, where the virtual
    reality model is all pervasive, it would appear that truth has
    come to exist in relative compartments. Since Arizona's
    psycho-scientific community is far from state-of-the-art, it's
    easy to forgive the state's forensic psychologists who would
    appear to be lollygagging around bygone days, not keeping up with
    their journals. It is the belief of many that, if Robert Joe
    Moody had the opportunity to at least have the possibility that
    he was suffering from DID ruled out, and if the screening tools
    for evaluation for competency to stand trial were examined
    carefully, he certainly would not be representing himself as his
    own attorney. As the trial date neared, one could do little more
    than hope Moody had a Johnny Cocheran or an F. Lee Bailey in
    there somewhere. It turned out he didn't.

    October 11, 1995 -- On the opening day of the trial, Robert Joe
    Moody told the jurors, as he had told reporters, that he was an
    involuntary participant in two killings because he'd been
    controlled by Extrasensory Biological Entities. Addressing the
    jury of 16 for about 20 minutes in his opening statement, Moody
    said, "Nobody can tell you what happened like I can." Trying to
    explain why he was representing himself against murder charges in
    two separate killings in November 1993, Moody said, "I have never
    denied my participation in that... (but) it wasn't voluntary... I
    had no conscious control of what was going on." The former U.S.
    Marine with a Top Secret Security Clearance and more recently a
    Prudential Insurance District Manager and an independent
    financial planner, Moody spoke of using cocaine and crack cocaine
    before, he said, Extrasensory Biological Entities took control of
    him and made him kill Michelle Malone, and Patricia Magda, in
    their separate Tucson homes. He said that the EBEs took control
    of him so that they could prove their existence to the world.
    They wanted him to get evidence of their existence introduced
    into court as part of an ultimate "mission" to bring increased
    "spirituality" to the world. Assistant County Prosecutor David
    White, would later wonder, if that was so, why the aliens hadn't
    picked victims who were more famous, so they'd get more
    attention?

    Even though the judge had previously ruled out all testimony of
    mind control or alien intervention as a defense, he let Moody go
    on and on in his opening statement, telling the jury that the
    Extrasensory Biological Entities' involvement in the brutal
    murders became clear to him only after he watched a particular
    episode of "Star Trek," in a California jail.

    Facing death by lethal injection, Moody told the jury that the
    EBE's started contacting him while he was a weather observer for
    military aircraft. ( He told us previously in his cell that he was
    contacted first when he was four years old.) He said that the EBE
    conscious contact started soon after he read a top-secret
    government account of a spacecraft crash with "non-human"
    casualties. He told the jury, a UFO abducted him in 1992 and "ran
    a movie" through his mind showing him that aliens had contacted
    him several times since he was 4 years old.

    Prosecutor White, ignored the space alien question in his opening
    statements, saying that forensic evidence would prove that Moody
    was a desperate crack cocaine addict who brutally murdered two
    women because he needed money for drugs. White told jurors that
    police found fingerprints, blood, signed receipts, and other
    evidence linking Moody to the killings. White said Moody also
    admitted the slayings to several reporters during interviews in
    the months before the trial.

    The way things went, by the third day of the trial, it seemed
    clear that most of Moody's story was not going to come before the
    jury. Judge Hantman had successfully swept the most interesting
    questions under the carpet in preliminary hearings and the
    prosecutor appeared intent on seeing that the carpet stayed
    unturned.

    Hantman had said, "There is no "alien" defense for murder in this
    county." Gossips in the halls called the judge "Hangin' Howard
    Hantman." When Moody's former Defense Attorney, Dan Grills, was
    dismissed so that Moody could act as his own lawyer, Grills said:
    "allowing Moody to act as his own defense attorney is nothing
    more than State assisted suicide. Maybe they should start calling
    Judge Hantman, Judge Kervorkian?"

    Letting Moody present his own defense precluded raising the
    question of his sanity in any effective way. But reporters and
    court-watchers became aware of Moody's different personality
    states when he repeatedly referred to himself as Bob or
    Robert: "It doesn't have Robert Moody's signature on it," said
    one of Moody's personalities. "Those prints were taken from
    Robert Moody when he was extradited from California," another
    Moody personality said.

    This could be interpreted as Moody acting as his own lawyer
    referring to himself in the third person as any lawyer would his
    client. But even in acting, when one represents themselves as
    another, it is easy to get the roles mixed up. In Moody's case,
    however, he was very clear about Robert and Bob. He even got most
    of the witnesses to refer to "Robert Moody" when the word "you"
    would have been more appropriate. Several times Judge Hantman
    interrupted asking a witness to specify that the "Robert Moody"
    they were talking about was the defense counsel who was
    questioning them.

    The jury had the option of finding Moody "not guilty by reason of
    insanity," which, according to the opinion of several newspaper
    reporters who had more experience with the defendant, might not
    have been all that unthinkable. Several legal and mental health
    professionals familiar with details of this case expressed
    thoughts that the judge had demonstrated a great lack of humanity
    when he let Moody try to defend himself. What they overlooked was
    that this was Moody's way of fulfilling his "mission."

    While Moody was acting as his own counsel the following questions
    could not be confronted: Is Robert Moody suffering from
    Dissociative Identity Disorder? Was his DID discovered by the
    cryptocracy during his service in the U.S. Marines? Was he
    conditioned as a "sleeper agent" assassin to kill on command,
    and/or was he accidentally triggered? Were the two victims killed
    for reasons of "national security" in the mind of Moody? Are
    Moody's memories of contact with  EBE's merely screen memories,
    planted to cover up top secret things, or military programming
    gone astray? Could the U. S. government be held liable for
    programming individuals as killers and turning them loose in
    society without first deprogramming them or debriefing them? In
    all fairness to Judge Hantman ( so new to the bench that, at the
    start of the trial, his name had not yet been not engraved on
    the brass plaque near the entrance), you can understand how
    Moody's mental state was overlooked. Tucson ( and Pima County) is
    at the crossroads of the War on Drugs. The justice system is not
    used to getting at the psychological truth. In the days of a
    "make a deal" swift process of law, in the age of "America's
    economy needs more prisons -- make more laws, break more laws"--
    most criminals cop a plea, pay their fines, do their time, or
    shoot it out with lawmen groomed in the historic shadows of Wyatt
    Earp and Johnny Ringo.

    One couldn't help but compare this trial with the O.J. Simpson
    trial which ended shortly before this one began. What if Robert
    Moody had the bucks to hire the Shapiro, Cocheran, Bailey team?
    It apparently didn't matter. He'd already told reporters that he
    committed the murders involuntarily under EBE influence. Even
    though he said it wasn't by his own volition, his hands held the
    knives that stabbed, the cords that tied, the guns that shot, and
    the hedge trimmers that bludgeoned. As the testimony unfolded a
    picture of the murders came to life. It was as if the victims
    both had their left hands tied down while their right hands were
    stabbed in a trained torture routine -- "tell me your p.i.n.
    number..." And then the victims were shot first Mossad style,
    then Mafia style, then CIA style. Then their heads were beaten
    with whatever was at hand. It was as if they had each been killed
    three times. Or as if they had been killed by three different
    personalities.

    Gossips on the courthouse steps said that David White had chosen
    to prosecute this bizarre case as a certain win, an easy way to
    smooth his path in the upcoming election for County Attorney.
    White kept it simple. He presented the Moody case as a routine
    drug crime, arguing that Moody smoked too much crack cocaine,
    went crazy and robbed and bludgeoned his two ( that we know of)
    victims before taking their money and one of their cars and
    heading off on an amnestic vacation to Laughlin, Nevada, then to
    Las Vegas and on to Flagstaff, then Glendale ( a suburb of
    Phoenix) and Yuma.

    In Yuma he put his ex-sister-in-law and her two children in a
    closet, and nailed the door shut, before taking her money and
    1992 Suburban and driving on to San Diego, then Hollywood --
    where he took in several free TV shows -- and Venice Beach before
    driving back to Las Vegas.

    Then for some unknown reason he decided he'd head back to
    California, but ran out of money in Bakersfield and picked up a
    hitchhiker to help pay for gas.

    The hitchiker turned out to be a convicted felon, Carlos Logan,
    who, after Moody had put five bucks worth of gas in the tank,
    drove off in the stolen Suburban with Moody chasing the car down
    the road for a mile or so. Finally, Moody walked back to the
    Sheriff's office where he filed a stolen vehicle report, saying
    that he, Todd Joe Williams, owned it. Without treatment Robert
    Moody isn't likely to discover if Williams is another one of his
    many personalities. White said it was just an alias, and proof
    that Moody knew he was wanted for murder and not amnestic at all.
    Somehow he got to the city of Orange in Orange County, California
    where he "woke up" on a bus bench knowing nothing about himself
    except he thought his name was Bob. He had no I.D. and no money
    so, after spending the night in a shelter, he checked into the
    local Sheriff's Office and asked for help in establishing his
    identity. After a few minutes, and a check of his fingerprints on
    a fingerprint computer network, the Orange County Sheriff's
    clicked the cuffs on Moody, arresting him on an outstanding
    warrant for the two murders in Arizona.

    During the interrogation he remained amnestic of the preceding
    days, and wasn't "allowed to remember," he said, by the
    "Extrasensory Biological Entities" until several days later.
    Prosecutor White, said this was all just due to the effects of
    drugs. Judge Hantman considered letting Moody present to the jury
    excerpts of a videotape of his first interrogation in Orange
    County, then he decided not to allow it at the last minute. Had
    the jury seen the tape they most likely would have been convinced
    that, at the time of the interrogation, Moody did suffer amnesia,
    and could not remember anything but that he thought his name was
    "Bob."

    The trial continued for weeks, part forensic fact and part true
    hallucination. Each day there was one of Moody's personalities
    fighting against another. First there was Robert, then Bobby,
    then Bob taking turns pleading the case before the jury and cross
    examining the government witnesses! Or, too often sitting silent
    and sullen when he should have cross examined.

    Bob presented his case and talked about Robert as Robert talked
    about Bob when he was present. The shifts in personality were
    subtle and one had to know something about DID to recognize what
    was happening. If you didn't know about Moody's DID you might
    think that he was just talking about himself using his name for
    the sake of clarity since he was the lawyer as well as the
    defendant. Nobody seemed to notice that the murderer signed into
    the hotel as JOE Moody, who could turn out to be the protector of
    little Joey Moody, the child who, according to the defense, was
    seriously abused and traumatized by his father.

    The jury couldn't have known the significance of the prosecutor's
    objection when Robert asked his brother Cliff ( who was
    testifying against him) if, when under the questioning of White,
    he said they'd come from a "normal family," he meant that a
    family  which had been beaten and sexually assaulted and
    traumatized by their father was normal? White objected and the
    judge quickly sustained the objection. The significance of this,
    maybe, was that if the prosecutor had let Cliff Moody expound on
    their childhood abuse, it would have laid the groundwork for a
    DID defense, one in which each one of the defendant's
    personalities would have to have been called forward at the time
    of arrest and read the Miranda warnings, which, based on the
    video tape of the interrogation, they most certainly were not.
    Weeks after the murders, the state's forensic shrink Dr. Jack
    Potts "psychologically" evaluated Moody and eventually diagnosed
    him as malingering. Malingering is just a fancy word for lying.
    But the judge refused to allow Moody to put on the witnesses to
    sufficiently offer proof that he was not lying.

    The prosecution presented its evidence for eight days, then the
    defense ( Moody with John Semon advising) presented its case for
    about six more.

    In the face of Judge Hantman and Prosecutor White's obstructions
    in bringing the most interesting part of this case to light, none
    of the following was apparently investigated nor disclosed:
    Evidence which could indicate that Robert Joe Moody was used in
    Naval Intelligence operations; evidence which could explain the
    five months of missing time he experienced when he allegedly
    trained with Navy Seals; evidence on the backgrounds of the
    victims, the first of whom was taking drugs with Moody, having
    sex with Moody and his girl friend, making porn movies, and is
    alleged ( by Moody) to have had carnal knowledge of prominent
    Arizonans. Also not to come forth was any evidence that shed
    light on Moody's second victim, the widow of a U. S. Air Force
    Colonel, nor on Moody's involvement with a national multimillion
    dollar insurance scam he participated in while he was District
    Manager of Prudential Life Insurance.

    Prosecutor White paid a good deal of attention to the aliens in
    his closing statements. It appeared that White was concerned that
    Moody might get an acquittal by reason of insanity or a hung jury
    from hidden ufologists among the 12 jurors. Speaking of the
    "alien possessed" defendant using his victim's credit cards to
    get money, White wondered, "Did the aliens need the money to buy
    plutonium to fuel their spaceships?" He concluded Moody's EBE
    possession claims were fake. "The aliens are innocent," he said.
    In Moody's rambling rebuttal he wondered, "How did the prosecutor
    become an expert on aliens overnight?"

    During the last week of his trial Moody called me and asked, "How
    do you think I'm doing?" I said I thought he wasn't doing so
    well. "I mean, how do you think I'm doing moving toward my
    mission," he asked. In that, I had to admit, he was doing just
    fine.

    The night before the Jury came back with it's verdict, Moody told
    Defense Investigator Ray Morgan, "I've got it won either way. If
    they find me not guilty by reason of insanity, I walk. And if
    they find me guilty, I begin to fulfill my mission."

    October 27, 1995 -- The jury was already waiting in the hall when
    the press filed into the  courtroom. Each juror has their bright
    yellow badges on, so that they could be easily identified. Only
    Sal Quijada failed to notice those yellow badges when he spoke of
    the possibility of a mistrial the day before in the hall and made
    it necessary to poll the jury to see if his phone call had
    planted a thought in any mind which would prejudice them. This
    morning one of the jurors held a large chocolate cake marked with
    festive orange icing. Another juror held a 12 pack of a popular
    soft drink. After three of the jurors were dismissed through a
    random draw, the rest of the jury deliberated for less than two
    hours, during which time they held a little Halloween birthday
    party for one of their number

    When the jury came back with the verdict guilty on two counts of
    first degree murder, Robert Moody smiled broadly. Michelle's
    husband,  Jerre Malone, danced in the elevator. Pat Magda's son,
    David Royles gave a cheerful interview to the cameras while
    hugging his wife.

    It was a "win/win" kinda day.

    THE REIGN OF ERROR

    October 21, 1995 -- there were headlines over a story in the
    Citizen by Mary Bustamante which said: "Moody loses motion for
    mistrial. The judge says he can't call space alien expert or
    impeach psychiatrists."

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